Yin & Yang
No one has got your back like your spouse. Going into business with the same person you vowed to honor all the days of your life seems like a smart moveâuntil you consider the fallout of office stressors following you home. Once over the threshold, work conversations can nibble away at the most perfect of unions, upsetting the balance between a marriage relationship and a business liaison.
âThe biggest problem is knowing when to turn it off,â says Nathan Sachs, founder of Blueprints for Tomorrow, a provider of business solutions and succession planning. âYouâve got to set ground rules and live by them. When you walk into that house at night ... turn it off.â
Sachs not only counsels families who are in business together, heâs worked full-time with his wife, Dale, for the past three years, and credits her with empowering their company to grow more rapidly. He says heâs seen it time and againâcouples who canât stop talking shop, unaware thereâs a price to pay. âAfter a while, thatâs who you become: partners. The marriage takes a hit,â he says. âI have couples who tell me theyâve lost their social circle because itâs all business. They donât even realize theyâre doing it.â
Itâs part of the fine art of changing hats. Sachs even has a name for itârole identityâand he says itâs a major struggle for âcopreneurs,â knowing when to stop being a spouse and start being a partner, and vice versa. The challenge can be as complicated as relationships themselves, with conflict often stemming from traditional male/female behaviors.
Women tend to be more nurturing and may bring a sensitivity and protectiveness to the workplace that the husband doesnât need, Sachs says, pointing to a recent conversation he had with his own wife. âDale was very against me taking a one-day business trip to Rhode Island this week. Thatâs a wife talking, not a partner. It was a good business opportunity, but she was worried about my well-being.â
Ego often becomes a factor for men who share a workplace with their spouses, especially if the wife brings a husband into her already successful company. âConflict starts because heâs not going to play second fiddle,â Sachs says, adding copreneurs have the best results when they start a business together from the ground up.
One thing is certain, more couples are working together in todayâs tight economy, whether itâs as full-fledged partners or by helping out with tasks such as the books. Sachs estimates more than 50 percent of his clients have a spouse working in their companies in some capacity. âI totally believe if itâs done right, the advantages can outweigh the disadvantages,â he says. âItâs a great balancing actâas long as one plus one equals three.â
For our annual âDynamic Duosâ issue, we asked three successful Airpark âcouplepreneursâ to share their stories on how theyâve wed business with marriage. Hereâs what they had to say ...
By Kimberly Hundley
Ask Moises Martinez if he could have imagined himself downward-dog-deep in the yoga business five years ago, and he looks incredulous.. âNever in a million years,â says the long-time publishing industry executive, who now runs three Blissful Yoga studios in the Valley with his wife, Rosa Rendon.
Yoga was Rosaâs passion, but she never envisioned herself on the entrepreneurial side of the mat either. The coupleâs professional lives have changed radically since Rosa stepped beyond her role as stay-at-home mom to explore a career as a yoga teacher and studio owner.
Thatâs not the only thing thatâs changed.
âRosaâs really blossomed into this fantastic person who I not only get the joy of working with every day but the joy of taking home every night,â Moises says. âI respect her more now that I work with her.â
It happened almost by chance, that ray of opportunity, and it nearly passed them by. But lifeâs funny. The future can change just by turning a corner, literally.
With Moisesâ encouragement to follow her passion, Rosa had bought a tiny studio in Glendale where she taught classes. However, the business wasnât viable in the space, and pre-Recession rent at Rosaâs dream locale in Citadelle Plaza was astronomical.
It was do-or-die time when they found themselves driving by the Citadelle again six months into the economyâs nose dive. Rosa was at the wheel, and Moises gave her a choice: turn left into the plaza to see if the lease had become more affordable ... or go straight and close the studio in a month.
She turned left.
âWe immediately had a great response from the community, and the word of mouth was totally invaluable,â Rosa says of that first Blissful Yoga studio. âWeâre really lucky to have amazing staff and people. They have to be passionate about yoga. We can teach them everything else.â
Rosa considers herself blessed to be in the âmagicalâ work of offering health and wellness, and students respond to her personable expertise. While other businesses have struggled in the down economy, Blissful Yoga quickly opened two more studios, one near Desert Ridge and another at the Scottsdale Quarter. The studios offer a variety of classes and a unique yoga wall, which allows students to hang off the wall on straps, as though in traction. âItâs absolutely amazing. Our yoga wall classes are always full,â says Rosa, who teaches 10 classes a week at three locations.
Moisesâ âpart-timeâ duties include staff management, operations, payroll and putting out fires. As the yoga business grew, he moved his New York City publishing office to the elegant, eco-friendly main studio at the Quarter. âI like to say my job has become my hobby, and her hobby has become my job,â he says. âItâs been a journey, for sure.â
The couple strongly believe in supporting the community, which is why Blissful Yoga offers âkarmaâ classes, where a portion of proceeds goes to local charities, as well as âpay what you canâ sessions. âYou donât want to make yoga unaffordable for anyone. It really is about making a difference and transcending beyond the business itself,â Rosa says. âAs long as people have a smile on their faces after class, weâre happy.â
Though many couples refuse to discuss work on the home front, Moises and Rosa sometimes find themselves sharing ideas or tackling problems at midnight. It works for them, Moises says, because they keep the talks positiveâand they donât look back.
âBoth of us are very passionate people,â he says. âWhatever needs to get done, we do it, and do it fast, and weâve learned to live with our decisions. There are no bad decisions; we go past it, no attachments and no grudges. Itâs very much a yoga thing.â
The couple, who relocated to Arizona from Mexico City in 2004, say they also try to notice surprising things in each other every day, and that helps to keep them going after two decades together.
Their advice to other âcouplepreneursâ is to not hold each other back from chasing a passion, even if there are consequences.
âBe willing to take the plunge into the abyss together, holding hands. It canât be any scarier than getting married,â Moises says with a laugh.
Embarking on a business and the evolution itâs sparked has brought them even closer together, he adds.
âI married someone who is completely different from the person Rosa is right now,â says Moises. âShe really makes me fall in love with her every single day of every single month of every year.â
Rosa smiles at her husband. âHeâs been such an important part of this whole journey and so supportive ... he is one of the most generous persons I know. He is putting himself in my dreams, so I love him more.â ïź
Rosa Rendon & Moises Martinez
Blissful Yoga Studio
Scottsdale Quarter, 480-636-7667
(Norterra Plaza/Phoenix,
Citadelle Plaza/Glendale)
Married: 18 years
Business partners: 2.5 years
By Mark J. Scarp
Each workday they refill cartridges with ink, a growing enterprise in a business climate that involves making resources last longer.
But each night the talk of the toners and printers at the heart of John and Nancy Fortunatoâs business gives way to the heart of their nearly 32-year marriage: home, children, a new grandchild on the wayâmost anything but the office.
The couple ,whose last name really means fortune, say that luck has nothing to do with how it smiles on their relationship as well as their two Cartridge World franchises on the edges of the Scottsdale Airpark.
It involves following some simple rules, the simplest being âleave work at work.â
âWe might unload a little bit,â John said. âBut usually itâs back to family issues, household.â
Nancy said she and her husband might spend 15 minutes going over the day, but then itâs put aside.
âThen we just talk about fun things,â
she said, leaving work talk behind. âI suppress it.â
Life at the office goes even more smoothly now than when the Scottsdale Airpark News last interviewed the Fortunatos for a story in the May 2006 issue.
âNow we know our routines, our customer base, what they need,â John said. After eight years with Cartridge World, theyâve learned to keep an inventory that matches their customersâ needs so well that when someone asks for something, itâs almost always there.
âStaples, Office Max, they send people to us,â John said.
They agree that is wasnât quite the same in the beginning.
Nancy had been a stay-at-home mother with three grown daughters and was looking to build a business. Johnâs earlier career was as what he called a âcorporate muckety-muck.â
He said that when he and Nancy opened their first store, he struggled with leaving behind an âI want to be the bossâ approach.
That first store was the chainâs third in the entire state of Arizona, and âthere was not a lot of history,â John said. âMy corporate hat was always on, thinking about how to get money,â John said.
âWe had a few fights,â his wife said, smiling.
âNot fights, disagreements,âJohn says, smiling back.
âWell, some harsh disagreements,â she says, still smiling.
But that passed quickly. Now they see things the way well-used-to-each-other couples do, in a way reading each otherâs thoughts:
âI kind of got used to it, and he slowed down being the boss,â she said.
âI took my corporate hat off, and now Iâm a worker bee,â he said.
Today, John mostly tends to the business side and is âthe toner guy,â while Nancy is the customer-service expert and planner.
The couple agreed they have the same kind of solid partnership at work they already had at home, achieved in part by keeping their eyes on common goals while still being individuals.
The chainâs executives must have been able to recognize success, because during the Fortunatosâ first four years with Cartridge World, they were assigned to train other couples aiming to become franchisees.
To keep the romance alive in a work-and-home relationship, Nancy and John like to cook meals together, play cards and talk a lot.
Nancy said their time together is enhanced by the fact they each have some individual interests.
âJohnâs a hiker. Iâm not,â she said.
And they do separate things together. He spends an hour or so on his computer checking on investments while sheâs in another part of the house âin my domain,â she said.
They agreed that couples should be good listeners.
âThatâs because weâre used to reading the otherâs mind,â John said, and the two laughed.
âWeâve grown, and weâve learned a lot,â Nancy said. ïź
John & Nancy Fortunato
Cartridge World
14884 N. Pima Road, 480-443-4465;
14202 N. Scottsdale Road, 480-361-5961
Married: 32 years
Business partners: 8 years
By Kimberly Hundley
Since heâd retired with a fat compensation package, tech wizard Phil Senff could always tell what kind of day his wife had had at the office by listening to the way she came through the door. On this particular day in 2004, he cringed. Kim was steaming, fed up with the shoddy standards of her employer, an in-home care service. She walked straight through the house and stared at him.
âWhy canât we just do this ourselves?â she demanded.
Phil thought a minute. âI donât know. Why canât we?â
Fast-forward a few months of research, and the Senffs had bought themselves a Comfort Keeper franchise in Phoenix. In their first year, they did $250,000 in revenue, doubling that number ever year after, until âthe economy went a little wackyâ and revenue settled at a $2 million plateau, says Phil.
Today, the Senffs have more than 100 employees and own nine territoriesâmore than any other franchisee in the entire Comfort Keeper system. But they didnât âset out to set the world on fire and have the biggest agency in the world,â says Kim.
âOur goal was to go into business and take care of as many seniors as we possibly can, and to treat them the way they deserve to be treatedânot just the seniors, but the caregivers as well,â Phil explains. âWe knew if we did what our real goal was, finances wouldnât be a problem.â
Though Kim and Phil hadnât owned a business together before, they were confident their skills would be a good fit for Comfort Keepers. Phil had owned and managed a number of enterprises, including one of the first ISP companies in the Valley. Kim had a background in the industry; sheâd taken care of seniors since her first job in a nursing home at the age of 17, and most recently sheâd worked for a direct competitor, doing every job in that office.
âI only wished I had thought of it earlier,â she says now, adding that the couple selected Comfort Keepers because the franchiseâs mission matched her own, to take care of clients as though they were your family members.
Phil handles the big-picture âbusiness aspectâ of things, keeping up on contracts, accounts payable, staff management, while Kim provides a yin to his yang. âSheâs a real pro, really concerned about her employees and clients. That is something I havenât always experienced in different jobs over the years,â he says.
The Senffsâ No. 1 rule is not talking about work at home. âYou canât let it be your life,â says Phil, who coaches couples coming into the franchise system. âYouâve got to train yourself that you have 40 hours to do the work. If you take it home at night, you get nothing done during the day and end up doing it at night. I tell people all the time, have your downtime.â
Sometimes Kim says she tries to nag Phil at home, but she doesnât get far. âIt goes in one ear and out the other,â she says, shrugging.
Phil and his wife work together in the office every day, but she gets there a couple hours earlier, and he stays later. âWe always have lunch together, and thatâs where we talk about anything thatâs pressing in here, and compare notes,â says Phil. âThere are always going to be little disagreements here and there. The key is to talk about it.â
Couples who plan to start a business together should create an organizational chart of all the positions that should be in the company and divide them up, he adds. âEven if itâs just the two of you, youâll know each otherâs boundaries and not cross over. If you can do that successfully, youâll lessen the likelihood of conflict.â
These days, Kim admits sheâs about ready to take a break from the office for a while.
As for Phil, the business his wife sparked needs no schedule tweaking. âMy version of retirement is to be able to do what you want, when you want, how you want,â he says. âI tell people Iâm still retired.â ïź
Phil and Kim Senff
Comfort Keepers
7600 E. Redfield Road, 602-441-4256
Married: 37 years
Business partners: 7 years
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